COLLINS: Kara, I wonder, beyond the attacks…
KARA SWISHER: Yes. Wow wow.
COLLINS: –what did you make of how he was shrugging off the concerns that the survivors have here? It’s not me. It is the survivors who raised this.
SWISHER: Which is what you talked about, including the possible survivors of Donald Trump, right? I mean, I think of all these people, in these files, which is really disturbing, I think you really got under his skin because of that. And so, he decided to take personal attacks on you, which were, whatever, you know, this – it was just ridiculous.
But one of the things – I think about what Governor Hochul from New York just put out on social media, that is, President Trump wants to turn the page, except he’s on the next one and the next one.
And so, I think you’re absolutely right to raise that question of what has been released and what needs to be released. And now that we’re halfway there, we should do the whole thing. And it was — you know, it was an important thing to do in this country, because of the web of power that’s going on here, and the abuse of people by very wealthy and connected people.
COLLINS: Yeah, it also seemed to shed some light on his mindset of all of this, which is, I mean, he views things through the lens of how it affects him, of course.
And he was saying that the only thing that – the release proved was that there was a conspiracy against him, because Michael Wolffthe author, and Jeffrey Epstein, were emailing about it.
I mean, of course, that wasn’t the takeaway most people had from what they read Friday night.
SWISHER: No. No, of course not. But that’s what it does, it’s a reality distortion field of its own making, and it’s just not true.
People are interested in this, because it shows that the elites have — they are kind of not responsible, that they are not bound by the law in any way.
And so – and again, where are the prosecutions here? Where are they – what happens next? He seems completely unconcerned about getting justice for the victims, which you were asking about, quite correctly, and he’s trying very hard to keep – I don’t – you couldn’t have done what you did there, Kaitlan. I would have – I just wouldn’t have been able to.
COLLINS: I mean, we just – we had so many survivors here on the show. We talked to so many of them. They were so-
SWISHER: Yes.
COLLINS: –candid and honest about things they don’t want to talk about frankly, and relive.
SWISHER: No, no.
COLLINS: And, I mean, that was what I was keeping in mind.